Posts Tagged ‘price’

Video: Negotiating With Vendors

Tuesday, August 4th, 2009

So this time around, we’re going to do things just a bit differently. There’s a video that has been going around on YouTube that does a pretty classic job of capturing just how ridiculous negotiating between vendors and clients can be.

The video is just a bit over two minutes long, but in three different situations it does a great job of capturing the vocabulary that we hear over and over again when clients try to negotiate with vendors solely on price.

We’ve talked about it before, but this video is a great reminder that when you are getting ready to enter into a sales negotiaton, you need to have identified ALL of the different points (including price) that are up for negotiation.

Here’s the video, enjoy!

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What We’ll Be Talking About Next Time

In the quest to do a better job at negotiating deals, sales negotiators have been known to do some pretty wild things in order to condition themselves to perform at a high level -- extreme exercising, exposure to hot / cold temperatures, and even eating some pretty weird things. However, is it possible that they’ve been overlooking the most important thing -- how happy they are?

Real Deals Use Real Money And Sales Negotiators Never Forget It

Tuesday, July 21st, 2009
Although Funny Money May Look Like Real Money, It Isn't!              (c) - gaymay

Although Funny Money May Look Like Real Money, It Isn't...! (c) - flickr / gaymay

My daughter is currently learning about how to add fractions in school. The trick to doing this right is that you have to make sure that the denominator (the number on the bottom of the fraction) is the same for both numbers before you add them. She’s struggling with this concept and it reminds me of a key sales negotiating point – never try to do a deal using funny money.

Just What Is Funny Money?

We all have heard the phrase “apples to apples” right? Well funny money is something that can either sneak into a sales negotiation or be slid into it by one side of the table. When this happens, all of a sudden you aren’t comparing two equal things such as how much a product costs and how much you are willing to pay for it. Instead, all of a sudden you’ve got apples, oranges, and bananas on the table in front of you.

A great example of funny money in real life is what happens when you gamble in a casino: you don’t use real money, you use chips instead. There are a number of reasons for this, but a key one is that chips don’t “seem” like real money. That allows us to gamble more and not feel as bad when they all go away (although it still hurts when we get the bill later on!)

Examples Of Funny Money In Sales Negotiations

Whether intentionally or not, funny money can slip into just about any sales negotiation. It’s the careful negotiator who keeps his / her eyes open and spots it when it shows up. Here are a few examples of what funny money can look like:

  • Price Per Unit: If I’m asking you to lower your blue widget price by two cents per unit, that seems like a small matter, right? It is until you realize that I’m trying to buy two million blue widgets and so what I’m really asking for is a $40,000 discount. Now that’s real money!
  • Price Per Lot: This is the flip side of the previous tactic. If I’m laying mulch in my yard and you tell me that you’ll sell me 10 bags of mulch for $20, that sounds like a fair deal. Until I realize that since I need 200 bags of mulch, we’re really talking about me paying you $400 for mulch. The total quantity needed and its price is what we need to negotiate.
  • Interest Rates: This is exactly what built those credit card companies into the powerhouses that they are today. If I borrow $60,000 at 10% on a 5-year loan to start my business, then I’ve just agreed to pay the bank $16,489.20 for the privilege of using their money. Sure seems like I should try to negotiate a lower interest rate.

Final Thoughts

It is the job of every sales negotiator to train yourself to always be asking the question: what is that worth. Just like my daughter is trying to learn to remember that she always needs to convert the denominator of two fractions to the same value, so too do sales negotiators need to learn to always “map” funny money to real values.

No matter what the other side of the table says, always take the time to translate funny money into real dollars and cents (or whatever currency you are using). If you don’t take the time to do this, you run the risk of making a bigger concession than you intended to. Learn to deal with funny money correctly and this will allow you to close better deals and close them quicker.

Questions For You

Have you ever been in a sales negotiation that included funny money? What form did the funny money take? How did it get into the negotiation? Did you take the time to map it to real money? Did you end up making a larger concession than you would have if you had been dealing with “real” money? Leave me a comment and let me know what you are thinking.

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What We’ll Be Talking About Next Time

The basics of sales negotiations are pretty straightforward; however, it can be easy to lose sight of them as we talk about tactics, preparation, and detailed sales negotiation skills. Maybe it’s time that we took a step back and got an expert to remind us about what we really need to be doing in our next sales negotiation?

Deadly Sins Of Sales Negotiations: Hope And 3 Others

Tuesday, July 14th, 2009

When Playing The Sales Negotiation Game, You Can't Just Hope To Win<br><a href=We all hear so much about the smooth Donald Trumps of the world that we can fall in to the belief that everyone shows up for a sales negotiation better prepared than we are. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, there are four common sales negotiation mistakes that even really smart people make all the time. Are you making any of them?

The 4 Deadly Sins Of Sales Negotiations

It turns out that the reason that so many sales negotiations turn out poorly for negotiators is because they enter into the negotiations with the wrong state of mind. Instead of preparing for the negotiation, they go in with a “let’s hope for the best” type of mindset. How can they possibly hope to do well?

Sales negotiators who have this type of mind set more often than not don’t do well during a negotiation. They fall prey to the four deadly sins of sales negotiations:

  1. No plan
  2. Bad agreements
  3. Poor reading skills
  4. No follow up

Your Plan Is That You Have No Plan!

While I worked for Siemens, there was a large French-Canadian director who would occasionally explode in strategy meetings and shout at people that “Your Plan Is That You Have No Plan!” In a sales negotiation, this is often the case when people enter into the negotiation without a plan.

Instead of a plan, they have hope. Hope that things will go well. That they won’t make too many mistakes. That the other side will make mistakes. A sales negotiation is a journey, not a destination. You need to have a plan (concessions, demands, questions, schedules, etc.) for how you are going to get to where you want to go.

Agreement Without Clarity

During everyday conversations with friends and coworkers, we all have a tendency to agree to things that we may not have a full understanding of. This is a polite way of keeping the conversation going even when we may not fully grasp what they are saying – we figure that we can pick it up later on.

This same type of behavior during a sales negotiation can be disastrous. If you don’t take the time to fully understand what you are agreeing to, you may find yourself quickly in a bad situation. Call for a break, take a time out, or ask the other side of the table to better explain something before you agree to it.

Doing A Poor Job Of Reading

Looking the other side in the eye and signing a contract with a big flourish sure can make a strong impression – that you don’t have any idea what you are really signing. I learned a long time ago that he who takes the notes, ultimately controls how a meeting turns out. The same goes for sales negotiations – it really doesn’t matter what you THINK you’ve agreed to, it’s the words that make it onto the paper that really matter. Take the time to read them!

Follow Up, Follow Up, Follow Up!

It’s too easy to think that a sales negotiation is over and done with once the last paper has been signed and the handshakes have been exchanged. However, both sides of the table have a responsibility to follow up and make sure that the agreement is being executed by both sides. Not only is this a critical part of doing business, it can have a big impact on any future negotiations between the two sides.

Final Thoughts

A long time ago I took a scuba diving class. One of the key lessons that they taught in that class was the simple phrase “Plan your dive, dive your plan.” The same thing can be said about sales negotiations: you need to have a plan and you need to follow it if you want to have any chance of being successful.

We now know what can happen if you don’t have a plan: you’ll end up skipping ove important steps like agreeing to things that aren’t clear, not reading things that you are signing, and not following up after the deal is done. Remembering to plan your negotiations ahead of time and avoiding the 4 deadly sins of sales negotiations will allow you to close better deals and close them quicker.

Questions For You

Have you ever gone into a sales negotiation without having a good plan? Did you end up agreeing to things that perhaps you didn’t fully understand because you didn’t know what you were looking for? Did you fully read the contract before you signed it? Did you remember to follow up to make sure that the contract was being followed after it was signed? Leave me a comment and let me know what you are thinking.

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What We’ll Be Talking About Next Time

My daughter is currently learning about how to add fractions in school. The trick to doing this right is that you have to make sure that the denominator (the number on the bottom of the fraction) is the same for both numbers before you add them. She’s struggling with this concept and it reminds me of a key sales negotiating point – never try to do a deal using funny money.

Don’t Believe What Anyone Says Is What Sales Negotiators Need To Learn To Do

Tuesday, July 7th, 2009
Sales Negotiators Need To Know When To Hold The Truth - And When To Fold

Sales Negotiators Need To Know When To Hold The Truth - And When To Fold

People are either honest or they aren’t right? Umm, well not exactly. Look, in a sales negotiation everything is not as it seems. I hate to use strong words like “lying” or anything like that, but let’s just say that a healthy dose of skepticism is often a sales negotiator’s best friend.

What’s Going On Here – Can’t Anyone Tell The Truth?

The older a sales negotiator gets, the more he / she is less likely to believe just about ANYTHING that they are told. There is a reason for this! In the end, sales negotiating is all about power – who has it and who doesn’t. However, just like in the game of poker bluffing is not only allowed, it is often encouraged.

If you don’t believe me (or you don’t WANT to believe me), then think about how a buyer and a seller interact when they are trying to complete a deal to buy a house – talk about some serious poker playing!

Where Do The LInes Get Drawn?

We are in a very murky area here and it’s very easy for a sales negotiator to stumble over the line and fall into the dark side – becoming a flat-out lier. It’s necessary that you operate here, but you’ve got to watch your step.

Our house buyer / seller are going to be presenting information that may not quite be the complete truth. The house seller is going to be talking about all of the things that make the house a fantastic house – and leaving out any discussion about the leaky pipes in the basement and the squirrels that have set up a home in the attic.

Likewise the buyer is going to be trying to mask any real interest that he / she may have in buying this particular house. Additionally, the buyer will be working hard to NOT communicate how much funding he / she has to complete the purchase. Is anyone lying here? No – but they are also not telling the complete truth.

One Word – Be Skeptical

A good sales negotiator is ALWAYS skeptical about anything that he / she is told by the other side. This includes when the other side uses facts & figures (where did they come from?), experts (what makes them an expert?), and handsome bound color documents (Kinko’s can turn out great stuff overnight).

As a sales negotiator your job is to always be asking questions. Take nothing at face value and always assume that the other side is probably not giving you the complete story. This is how you are are going to transfer power from the other side to you.

Final Thoughts

Being a “doubting Thomas” is a great skill for a sales negotiator to have. One important rule of life has been give to us by the Las Vegas board of tourism: “What happens during a Sales Negotiation, stays in the negotiation.” This means that you can’t have any hard feelings about what information the other side revealed (or didn’t) during the negotiation after it is all over and done. Having a healthy dose of doubt while negotiating will allow you to close better deals and close them quicker.

Questions For You

Have you ever accepted anything that the other side has told you at face value during a  sales negotiation? Did it turn out to be completely true? Have you ever been fooled by the other side? Have you ever stretched the truth during a sales negotiation? How did the other side use the information that you gave them? Leave me a comment and let me know what you are thinking.

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What We’ll Be Talking About Next Time

We all hear so much about the smooth Donald Trumps of the world that we can fall in to the belief that everyone shows up for a sales negotiation better prepared than we are. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, there are four common sales negotiation mistakes that even really smart people make all the time. Are you making any of them?

3 Things Every Sales Negotiator Needs To Know

Tuesday, June 9th, 2009
Sales Negotiators Need To Learn How To Slow Things Down

Sales Negotiators Need To Learn How To Slow Things Down

Wouldn’t it be great if the best sales negotiators in the world could drop by our place and sit down with us for awhile to share what they’ve learned? If you knew that they were coming, what questions would you ask them?

We’ve already talked about some of the things that master sales negotiators could teach us, and we’ve covered some of the secrets that they use to walk away with the results that they wanted.

However, let’s dive deeper – if we only had a few minutes to talk with a master sales negotiator, what would they want to share with us?

Buyers Need To Move Slower Than Sellers

Our sales negotiations are more often than not a game of back-and-forth: offers are followed by counteroffers which are then themselves countered. One thing that too many of us overlook is that the buyer’s first counter offer is one of the most important events in a sales negotiation.

Before the buyer makes a counteroffer, the buyer has no idea if there is any chance of striking a deal. The more the buyer goes on talking and doesn’t make a counteroffer, the greater the doubt in the seller will be. In fact, he/she may end up lowering their price just to get the buyer to make a counteroffer in the first place.

Learn To Say “Yes” Slooooowly

Sometimes, no matter what side of the table you are on, you’ll be presented with  a deal that is perfect just the way it stands. The price is right, the terms are good, and it meets your schedule. You are busy and have lots of other things to do – you want to say “yes” and move on to other things.

However, the master sales negotiators would caution you against doing this. It’s not that there is anything wrong with the deal, it’s just that you are going to leave the other side with a bad feeling about the negotiation. They are forever going to be filled with doubts about the deal (and they may do a poor job of keeping their part of the deal). However, if you say “no” a few times or at least take you time saying “yes”, then they will feel as though they “earned” the final outcome and this will, surprisingly, leave them feeling more satisfied.

Breakdowns – Good For Buyers, Bad For Sellers

Most of the time, the deal that we’re negotiating can be quite complex. In these cases it’s natural for the buyer to request a breakdown of the prices involved. This is an excellent way to get some insight into the seller’s costs.

On the other hand, providing such information is going to allow a buyer to do a better job of negotiating a lower price so sellers should work hard to not have to provide them. This can be impossible if they ask for it at point blank; however, trying to avoid ever getting into that situation is always a good plan.

Final Thoughts

As we’ve said before, the art of good sales negotiating does not rely on one single skill. Rather there are literally 1,000s of small details that if you can get them right, then you’ll turn into a force to be reckoned with during any sales negotiation. The three skills that we’ve discussed here will get you on your way to becoming a sales negotiating pro and will allow you to close better deals and close them quicker.

Questions For You

When you are buying something, do you ever have the strength to hold off on giving a quick counteroffer in order to strengthen your position? Have you ever been working on a deal when the other side presented you with the perfect offer? What did you do? Have you ever been able to avoid giving a cost breakdown after you had been asked for one? Leave me a comment and let me know what you are thinking.

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What We’ll Be Talking About Next Time

I wish that there was some sort of black magic potion or single scientific study that I could point to in order to justify what I’m about to tell you, but there isn’t. So here it goes: never be the first to make a concession on a MAJOR issue…